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« on: Sat 31 January, 2009 - 05:03 pm »

I have some mutant tomato plants, I had them attached to bamboo stakes, but they bent them, then grew 8 ft vines along the ground with 30 tomatoes on each of them, and I was slack and left it.  I harvested some huge 10 ft bamboo a few months back, so I used them as stakes today, and tried to tie all the tomatoes up... It's really heavy, and alot of the stems with the most fruit have split from the stress of holding their own weight, and I'm wondering if it can be left and they will repair themselves, or should I do something more for them ... TIA

On a related note, I highly recommend tomato plants from The Warehouse, I bought a punnet with 4 a few months back for $3, only 2 survived thanks to the neighbourhood animals, and there's now close to 100 tomatoes out there on them, and they're nice, they look like bought tomatoes(perfectly round with very few blemishes), and taste even better
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« Reply #1 on: Sat 31 January, 2009 - 05:21 pm »

If there are no signs of leaves wilting they are obviously still vital.

If its because the vines are to haevy i would selectivly harvest some of the green matoes leaving the vines less weight bearing.

At least they wont be wasted if you make some green tomato relish. It is really yum and there some nice recipies for it.

Those things are nicer made in small batches anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: Sat 31 January, 2009 - 05:57 pm »

Ta Spanky, yeah they're wilting a little, but even the ones that haven't broken are wilting, I'm gonna give them a good watering when the sun disappears and see how they look tomorrow

Can't really see myself making green tomato relish
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« Reply #3 on: Sat 31 January, 2009 - 06:00 pm »

I just looked up a recipe for the relish, doesn't look too hard actually
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« Reply #4 on: Sat 31 January, 2009 - 06:49 pm »

Hmmm I'm not good at this and it may be too late, but aren't you meant to remove the leaders so they don't do the triffid thing? someone here will know

I am thinking of putting a fresh lot of tomatoes and lettuce in. i got slack over December and the birds got the tomatoes and the lettuce went to seed. Is it too late to plant some tomatoes? very keen on the warehouse punnet. Maybe grab some cherry tomatoes?
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« Reply #5 on: Sat 31 January, 2009 - 07:11 pm »

    photo please
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« Reply #6 on: Sat 31 January, 2009 - 07:33 pm »

   photo please

you've seen them already and can you guess that I disregarded the advice you gave me
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« Reply #7 on: Sat 31 January, 2009 - 08:06 pm »

what do you think I wanted the photo for 


I think there is very little you can do, apart from leave them as they are - sprawled everywhere, as you have said they will break as they have not got the strength needed, a bed of hay / or even paper perhaps to keep them off the soil would help keep the fruit free of spores / moulds etc while they ripen. (saturate the ground underneath first though and then it will work as a mulch as well)

next year will be different -eh?


*trots off to take a photo of mine just to be an annoying show off*   
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« Reply #8 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 12:45 pm »




and closer







This morning I tied up the first plant a little higher, so its looking all nice and tidy again.

Stu, With enough stakes, ties and patience you could possibly tie your plants up to support them... don't fancy you having enough patience though 
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« Reply #9 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 02:40 pm »

I just looked up a recipe for the relish, doesn't look too hard actually

actually its not difficult I like it and cabbage pickle the best actually thats not the truth i just love pickles.


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« Reply #10 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 02:43 pm »




and closer







This morning I tied up the first plant a little higher, so its looking all nice and tidy again.

Stu, With enough stakes, ties and patience you could possibly tie your plants up to support them... don't fancy you having enough patience though 


mr spanky ties mine up each few days as they grow. I just trimmed some of the lower leaves off th eother day.

They were leaves that got a bit hammered in the hail so plant better off with out them.

Yes bored as they grow you do squeeze out the laterals that grow. Gives stronger growth to th main trusses.

I love home grown tomatos.

The pup destroyed my sweet 100 plants I miss not having them this year i live onb them usually and roast lots of them I love roasted toms.
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« Reply #11 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 02:45 pm »




and closer







This morning I tied up the first plant a little higher, so its looking all nice and tidy again.

Stu, With enough stakes, ties and patience you could possibly tie your plants up to support them... don't fancy you having enough patience though 


ah yes, but my mess has 20 times more fruit on it
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« Reply #12 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 02:56 pm »

lol best thing is to keep them up off the wet ground as much as you can...

oh and make pickle. 
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« Reply #13 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 03:01 pm »




and closer







This morning I tied up the first plant a little higher, so its looking all nice and tidy again.

Stu, With enough stakes, ties and patience you could possibly tie your plants up to support them... don't fancy you having enough patience though 


mr spanky ties mine up each few days as they grow. I just trimmed some of the lower leaves off th eother day.

They were leaves that got a bit hammered in the hail so plant better off with out them.

Yes bored as they grow you do squeeze out the laterals that grow. Gives stronger growth to th main trusses.

I love home grown tomatos.

The pup destroyed my sweet 100 plants I miss not having them this year i live onb them usually and roast lots of them I love roasted toms.

I love home grown tomatoes now too, had them for Friday and Saturday night dinner and in an omelet this morning,so much tastier ... this is my first time growing vegetables, and I've done quite well, bought $10 worth on special at the Warehouse which included Tomatoes, Brocolli, Lettuce and Cucumber, the neighbourhood animals destroyed most, but the tomatoes and broccoli survived, and I've had 3 delicious heads of broccoli so far(more are growing), and 6 tomatoes with heaps more to go - lots of wild potatoes too Afro
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« Reply #14 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 03:03 pm »




and closer







This morning I tied up the first plant a little higher, so its looking all nice and tidy again.

Stu, With enough stakes, ties and patience you could possibly tie your plants up to support them... don't fancy you having enough patience though 

Collie been a busy lady     They're looking great!
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« Reply #15 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 03:15 pm »

Just wait, I'm uploading photos of mine at the moment, you'll be amazed at the quantity of fruit Afro
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« Reply #17 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 03:47 pm »

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listen to collie i said 
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« Reply #18 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 04:22 pm »

Man i see several jars of green tomato relish...
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« Reply #19 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 04:26 pm »

heaps eh ... I just been out again, found another 3 new plants growing wild, have staked them up, one already fruiting too, we're gonna have relish for the rest of the year
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« Reply #20 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 04:34 pm »









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« Reply #21 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 04:35 pm »

    different varieties do different things Fraggles.  (and yup scoobs     all things come to those who wait)

I didn't take a photo of the tiny yellow tomato - its smothered also      but then it always is, regardless of if you follow ' correct procedures or not.



also my hubby doesn't like the yellow toms, so doesn't touch them ie  didn't pinch out the first several sets of flowers... (warning Rant follows) no matter what I tell him about the original (extremely old)  idea  that not keeping the first set or two of flowers to allow the plant to become very strong so it will later bear bigger fruit and last longer  is while true-ish is just not needed I even swear at him - every bloody year - but does he listen?????????      When I'm not looking the sod picks the early flowers off.  Bloody stubborn man!!!    We have the very same argument EVERY year.


Also by pinching out the laterals you are allowing more air flow - through which is also lessening the chance of blight and fungal problems that can (and certainly do here) attack the plants in late summer.

still Stu, I'm very impressed (ya tin arse       )    what variety are they?



hey tell you what Stu  - How about we weigh all the fruit we get as its picked ?  

- keep a running total - you from your plants and me from mine - it'll be really interesting to see who gets the most fruit in the long run.

what'll be the prize?

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« Reply #22 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 04:43 pm »

oh but to keep it fair you'd have to weigh the fruit from only two plants, to make it fair.   
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« Reply #23 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 04:59 pm »

Dunno the variety, from The Warehouse, I did have a tag in there with it on, but I can't find it for some reason

I've already had 5 so can't do the weight, plus we don't have kitchen scales, could keep a tally of the quantity tho - 5 consumed, 3 on the bench waiting to be consumed

I also did some reading up on the damage I did, one site said the damage helps the fruit to ripen quicker - the worst damaged one has about 15 tomatoes on it, so I'm hoping that's correct

The plant in my last photo is quite badly split too between the 2 bunches, and I dunno if you can make it out, but I tied a piece of string around it to close the gap and hold it together apparently that can work too
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« Reply #24 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 05:28 pm »



I might try this next year
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« Reply #25 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 05:30 pm »

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« Reply #26 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 05:36 pm »

 eek   omg!!! 

what the hell did they feed it??   
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« Reply #27 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 05:38 pm »

ooooo found the variety tag, 'Moneymaker'

http://www.yates.co.nz/products/seeds/vegetables/tomato-moneymaker/
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« Reply #28 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 05:38 pm »

thought they may have been - mines beefsteak  (I think)      
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« Reply #29 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 06:24 pm »

I have lots of green toms but I don't know what variety.   eek   I threw the packet away. 

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« Reply #30 on: Sun 1 February, 2009 - 06:32 pm »

eek   omg!!! 

what the hell did they feed it??   

it's here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_with_the_Land

like a Disney amusement park thingy, so maybe it's fed naughty children
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« Reply #31 on: Wed 4 February, 2009 - 09:30 pm »

eek   omg!!! 

what the hell did they feed it??   

looks like hydroponics (see the pipe going into the tub?)

the have a similar "exhibit" at the big pinaple on the gold coast
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« Reply #32 on: Wed 4 February, 2009 - 09:48 pm »

soo cited omg i went to the big pineapple when i was eleven

and I went on the pineapple train and climbed up the big pineapple   
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« Reply #33 on: Wed 4 February, 2009 - 10:02 pm »

 

we did it a few years ago when we took the kids.
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« Reply #34 on: Wed 4 February, 2009 - 10:36 pm »

my tomatoes people, focus
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« Reply #35 on: Wed 4 February, 2009 - 10:39 pm »

have harvested another 5 since sunday, so I'm up to 13 vs collies???
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« Reply #36 on: Wed 4 February, 2009 - 10:43 pm »

I espalier mine and get heap of tomatoes of one plant.

Geez Stu, I wouldnt worry about it, if the tomatoes are still there, then all is good, just wait for them to ripen.  You could maybe tie some stakes to where they are.

The absolute best crops I ever get is espalier, or let em grow wild.  And that applies to all the veges in my garden.  dunno why but it works everytime.  my one pumpkin plant has got probly 20-30 pumpkins on it, and its taken over everything  eek
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« Reply #37 on: Wed 4 February, 2009 - 10:54 pm »

Yep, they seem to be ripening despite the breaks - all the leaves are dying even

I'd never heard of 'espalier'(first time gardener of course),looked up on wiki,interesting - think I'm too lazy to so that tho
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« Reply #38 on: Fri 6 February, 2009 - 11:24 am »

Up to 15 harvested

They have gardening advice on Radio Live at the moment, they reckon coffee grinds sprinkled around the base increases the yield by quite a bit

they also say that tomatoes should be watered every few days for 20 minutes, I water mine daily with the sprinkler for about an hour
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« Reply #39 on: Fri 6 February, 2009 - 11:51 am »

have harvested another 5 since sunday, so I'm up to 13 vs collies???

none  but mine are still getting bigger 

already agree you have a mighty fine crop there Stu, I'd be proud too if I were you. 
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« Reply #40 on: Thu 12 February, 2009 - 12:32 pm »

*sigh*
once again I am loosing my tomatoes to the wretched green vegetable bug. they don't touch the cherry tomatoes - but the others they ruin completely. Last year they did the same - and many folks had exactly the same problem. Cheaper now to buy them!
Enjoy yours guys!   
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« Reply #41 on: Thu 24 December, 2009 - 09:12 am »

Found some wild tomato plants in the garden, so transplanted them to a sunny spot, gonna have heaps again I hope
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« Reply #42 on: Sat 26 December, 2009 - 05:42 pm »

Up to 15 harvested

They have gardening advice on Radio Live at the moment, they reckon coffee grinds sprinkled around the base increases the yield by quite a bit

they also say that tomatoes should be watered every few days for 20 minutes, I water mine daily with the sprinkler for about an hour

do you think i can just sprinkle coffee from the packet over the base of the tomatoes?

i need all the help i can get i think,
lots of flowers on mine and some fruit but nothing as big as the rest of you   
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« Reply #43 on: Sat 26 December, 2009 - 05:56 pm »

My secret was not caring for it properly and letting it go wild, so maybe give that a try
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« Reply #44 on: Sat 2 January, 2010 - 08:37 pm »

I must take photos of my this years tomatoes.. round two Stu?   
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« Reply #45 on: Sat 2 January, 2010 - 09:38 pm »

I was away for a week, and the garden is now bare
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« Reply #46 on: Sat 2 January, 2010 - 09:43 pm »

eh?  how did that happen?

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« Reply #47 on: Sat 2 January, 2010 - 09:47 pm »

dried and died - they were only about 10 cm tall, there was only a small trace of one and I watered it, forgot to check on it again today though
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« Reply #48 on: Sat 2 January, 2010 - 11:59 pm »

My secret was not caring for it properly and letting it go wild, so maybe give that a try

ah huh   yep, that works   
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« Reply #49 on: Sun 3 January, 2010 - 10:04 am »

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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