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« on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 09:55 pm »

Ok

I'm looking to open a wee café, and if anyone has any advice, I'm all ears!!!

I have put together a lot of favourite recipes, but I need advice on licensing, staffing etc etc etc

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« Reply #1 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 09:59 pm »

what kind of cafe? huge variables...

A friend of mine set up in welly and the new fitout for kitchen and dining area was about 250k (of his Mum's money)  eek  eek  eek
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« Reply #2 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:01 pm »

and depending where you are, competition and a decent customer base will be the main hurdles...

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« Reply #3 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:02 pm »

yep what the weevil one said, heaps of different variables

mum had pubs and restaurants and is currently looking at a cafe/bar - its hard work
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« Reply #4 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:04 pm »

there's not only a huge staff turn-over most places, the owners have to be (generally speaking) ghastly career restauranteur extroverts 

and they usually end up throwing in the towel or having a nervous breakdown after a few years... 
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« Reply #5 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:06 pm »

Good luck, I'm sure you'll do well you appear to have a very good knowledge of foodie heaven and how to deliver it Smiley

I have no idea regarding staffing and licensing, but I would imagine you'd have to carefully craft your offerings to excite the demographic profile of your customers -

Are there a lot of retirees - nostalgia

Is there a young and professional population -trendy

families, suburbia - a kiddies corner

Anyway, I wish you all the best!    

Advertising is important.

 

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« Reply #6 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:08 pm »

lol - already had the nervous breakdown - so that's sorted

It's in a little village which has no other cafe's - the little local restaurant (was a bit of a flop) is closing, so I'll be leasing the space - all kitted out, just have to remove the tandoori oven so I can put in a couple of baking ovens.

about 80 sq metres inside
about the same again outside, some covered, some open

Will advertise in the local paper, and appeal to the tour bus operators as we are in a semi rural area of outstanding natural beauty...
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« Reply #7 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:11 pm »

giving the tour guides a free lunch for every bus load they bring in might be a sound idea 
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« Reply #8 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:12 pm »

give them a voucher... 
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« Reply #9 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:13 pm »

giving the tour guides a free lunch for every bus load they bring in might be a sound idea 

We will also be as Organic and free trade as possible, drawing as much as possible from local sources

Will also showcase local art and crafts

So a real little hub of activity
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« Reply #10 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:15 pm »

My advice would be to never call it wee cafe again  
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« Reply #11 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:16 pm »

So that would be your draw card, natural and beautiful, would be good if you think of something tourists can take away with them to as a memento of the visit, little surprises which will excite them and remind them to tell others. Mind you even a unique table setting could get the word out - as well as delicious food of course.
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« Reply #12 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:16 pm »

nah, totally call it a wee café  High 5

that would get you a very select clientele   

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« Reply #13 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:18 pm »

 
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« Reply #14 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:27 pm »

    Point taken Bob...

yes, natural handcrafted crafts, jams, chutneys, jellies, sauces, wooden turned bowls and platters, quilts, knitting, local produce etc

and of course Food and damn good coffee!!!

Possibly even an internet connection to those who need it...

Will also open for SAR if they have a long search in the Ranges - coffee, tea, sandwiches and some hot food...
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« Reply #15 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:42 pm »

a good mixture of basics and fancy would be good.

If you're out of town a bit what can you do to entice people to come out.

A theme day with old china and serving all the oldies favourites might bring the pensioners out.
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« Reply #16 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:44 pm »

a good mixture of basics and fancy would be good.

If you're out of town a bit what can you do to entice people to come out.

A theme day with old china and serving all the oldies favourites might bring the pensioners out.

There will be a mixture from Eccles cakes and scones to some interesting foodie salads.

If I can get through the paperwork with the council first...
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« Reply #17 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:45 pm »

Theme days!  true - that could work in with  hosting car and bike runs. Would be fun.
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« Reply #18 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:46 pm »

Theme days!  true - that could work in with  hosting car and bike runs. Would be fun.

Ooooooh!!  Great idea!  We do have a lot of bike and motorbike events in the area...
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« Reply #19 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 10:51 pm »

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« Reply #20 on: Thu 8 August, 2013 - 11:26 pm »

 eek   I'll be a waitress eh 
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« Reply #22 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 10:18 am »

eek   I'll be a waitress eh 

 
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« Reply #23 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 11:51 am »

thought you'd say no  
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« Reply #24 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 12:29 pm »

NZ's first Hooters? 



  in Red Bands and a swanndri yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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« Reply #25 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 12:36 pm »

thought you'd say no  

Where did I say 'no'??...

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« Reply #26 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 01:52 pm »

oh s**t!!




 




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« Reply #27 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 03:03 pm »

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« Reply #28 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 04:05 pm »

oh s**t!!




 






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« Reply #29 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 07:25 pm »

Ok

I'm looking to open a wee café, and if anyone has any advice, I'm all ears!!!

I have put together a lot of favourite recipes, but I need advice on licensing, staffing etc etc etc

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« Reply #30 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 07:54 pm »

Yes, the mistakes of the networks producing those shows 
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« Reply #31 on: Fri 9 August, 2013 - 10:17 pm »


Will advertise in the local paper, and appeal to the tour bus operators as we are in a semi rural area of outstanding natural beauty...

  You live in Temuka  High 5  - where, where, where   
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« Reply #32 on: Sat 10 August, 2013 - 10:04 am »


Will advertise in the local paper, and appeal to the tour bus operators as we are in a semi rural area of outstanding natural beauty...

  You live in Temuka  High 5  - where, where, where   

 

Nope

Closer to Bombay and Hunua than Temuka...

Have found out that I would have resource consent for 32 plus 5 staff, so that's pretty good!  Have played with seating plans to work out how best to accommodate everyone both in summer and winter.
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« Reply #33 on: Sat 10 August, 2013 - 02:51 pm »

got room for a 7 mtr truck?   
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« Reply #34 on: Sat 10 August, 2013 - 02:57 pm »

you and your bloody truck!
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« Reply #35 on: Sat 10 August, 2013 - 06:42 pm »

   would have been better if it was the tardis but alas the Doctor got to that one first
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« Reply #36 on: Sat 10 August, 2013 - 08:55 pm »

Dr who 
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« Reply #37 on: Sat 10 August, 2013 - 10:35 pm »

Not sure which doctor 
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« Reply #38 on: Sun 11 August, 2013 - 01:35 am »

no no, not a witch doctor   
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« Reply #39 on: Sun 11 August, 2013 - 05:46 am »

Which Dr 
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« Reply #40 on: Sun 11 August, 2013 - 12:32 pm »

Dr  Who doctor  yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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« Reply #41 on: Sun 11 August, 2013 - 02:10 pm »

hey KA
 you could kit the place out like the tardis
 time warp back to a time and place where food was real


...and exterminate all 'number' foods 
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« Reply #42 on: Sun 11 August, 2013 - 02:11 pm »

and Brussel sprouts   
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« Reply #43 on: Sun 11 August, 2013 - 03:19 pm »

and spinach 
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« Reply #44 on: Mon 12 August, 2013 - 01:16 am »

and asparagus and tripe
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« Reply #45 on: Mon 12 August, 2013 - 05:03 pm »

yummy asparagus!
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« Reply #46 on: Mon 12 August, 2013 - 08:44 pm »

In season Asparagus, Brussels Sprouts, Spinach, Artichokes, Eggplants and other nummies!!!

Stay away from number foods

Stay away from retro kitch...

Real food for real people made by real people... and bloody good coffee!!!

Tried some beautiful cranberry and custard muffins today - will try to write the recipe for those - they were utterly Delicious!!!
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« Reply #47 on: Tue 13 August, 2013 - 12:27 am »

I think I would've starved to death if we were reliant on seasonal foods  eek
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« Reply #48 on: Tue 13 August, 2013 - 12:27 am »

Unless I had a go at tasting those gorgeous sounding muffins 
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« Reply #49 on: Tue 13 August, 2013 - 09:14 am »

If I go out today I'll see about picking up some frozen cranberries - then will have a play and see what I can come up with.

Maybe custard... maybe 'cheesecake' type filling...  will see...

*Giggles at Scoobs not loving seasonal produce - Silly Billy!
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