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« on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 07:22 pm »

https://plus.google.com/photos/110057802854743931597/albums/5302605978519486017?banner=pwa

I know I go on like a burst ahole about 1080, but I hate it, and for good reason. Here are some pics of the 'collateral damage'

Clyde Graf is a hunter, and a conservationist. This s**t is so destructive and I feel ashamed that it is condoned by the powers that be (both left and right wing for you political f**kers) I've seen the damage first hand, from the silent bush, the smell of death, my neighbour holding her convulsing dog in her arms, crying, and not being able to help her as she died a horrible death from the s**t.

Watch the Graf brothers film, poisoning paradise, it's real, it isn't sugar coated, and this f**kin s**t needs to be banned.

There are other ways to control possums, but they just keep on dumping this s**t and killing everything.

 
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« Reply #1 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 07:32 pm »

Start a political party 
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« Reply #2 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 07:36 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQRuOj96CRs&feature=youtu.be

Please take the time to watch this, or at least some of it.
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« Reply #3 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 07:38 pm »

Start a political party 
Watch the video Bob.
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« Reply #4 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 08:02 pm »

I've watched footage before - showing dogs and other animals dying a horrible death, made me feel sick and angry. So I don't want to watch anymore.


Is there a strong advocate/lobbyist working on banning it?
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« Reply #5 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 08:08 pm »

The trouble is, the majority of voters live in the cities, and as long as their own needs are catered to, they are happy. They lap up everything that DOC says, cos it's the department of Conservation.  Forest and Bird are a pack of extremist tree huggers. 

There are a couple of lobby groups, but nobody takes any notice.


If anyone wants proof, go for a walk in the bush a few weeks after a drop, and listen.  (Don't take your Dog tho.)
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« Reply #6 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 08:18 pm »

Needs someone with a bit of clout to get in behind it.
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« Reply #7 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 08:24 pm »

Kim dot com could use it to gain popular votes 
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« Reply #8 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 08:25 pm »

Needs someone with a bit of clout to get in behind it.
Peter Dunne is opposed to it, but he has no clout lol.
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« Reply #9 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 08:35 pm »

 fishing
Kim dot com could use it to gain popular votes 
f**k up, Bob. 
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« Reply #10 on: Tue 4 February, 2014 - 09:16 pm »

The govt. should invest in good nature products. 

Clean killing of pests and replaceable gas canisters.

http://goodnature.co.nz/

http://goodnature.co.nz/index.php?pageID=video
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« Reply #11 on: Thu 6 February, 2014 - 03:40 pm »

The trouble is, the majority of voters live in the cities, and as long as their own needs are catered to, they are happy. They lap up everything that DOC says, cos it's the department of Conservation.  Forest and Bird are a pack of extremist tree huggers. 

There are a couple of lobby groups, but nobody takes any notice.


If anyone wants proof, go for a walk in the bush a few weeks after a drop, and listen.  (Don't take your Dog tho.)

…. " as long as their needs are catered to, they're happy ". 
This is the common default position that is ensuring last scale ecological collapse "will" occur. I know people who wail about being unable to pay their power, phone etc, but can find the money to turn their hair raspberry on a whim, by some booze or that "must have CD, or get a nice tattoo or genital piercing etc. At the other end of the economic scale, at "select" locations, the lesser spotted $35.00 Forest and Bird sticker can be seen on the rear of $120,000 shopping carts ( vehicles ).
My experience is that for the majority, unless people are directly impacted it is peripheral static or invisible to them. When that impact happens it will be well beyond the tipping point before which protection and recovery may / would have been effective. We live in a "selfie" culture, increasingly isolated by technology from direct experience of and the opportunity for understanding more about real world ecological issues. We like to ooh and aah over pretty pictures and shy away from unpleasant realities. Mired in distractions that fleetingly gratify.
As a species we appear to have evolved either a dormant sense of smell, or s**t that doesn't stink. As the nest still fills with it we, perhaps not blissfully but wilfully ignore, in the pursuit of sating our appetites.
It is homo sapiens who need to be put on a diet of death. Perhaps a highly contagious VERY HIGH MORTALITY virus ……….       ….. soon …..
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« Reply #12 on: Sun 9 February, 2014 - 10:12 pm »

An interesting article on the effects on humans in South Africa by Chris Mercer, c. 2012:

The Facts about Compound 1080

1. The FBI in USA has issued a Terror Alert on this substance. One teaspoon can kill up to a hundred people;it looks like castor sugar and is easily soluble in water. It is tasteless, and there is no antidote. Apart from the Nazi experiments, at least 13 humans have been killed by Compound 1080 accidents and use as a murder weapon. Three children were killed in an Oklahoma City incident in which Compound 1080 was spread on vanilla wafers. In fact, it is the perfect murder weapon, virtually undetectable in a third world environment and killing with certainty, leaving a corpse with a probable post-mortem diagnosis of ‘Heart Attack’ as the cause of death. The presence of this poison in SA in an age of inter-societal tensions and terrorism is a threat to national security. One tablespoon could wipe out all of Parliament.

2. The poison was developed by the Nazis, tested horrifyingly on Jews and dissidents, and then rejected for Death Camp use because it was too dangerous for death camp staff to handle.

3. It was banned from general use in USA in 1972, after a number of human deaths and the wiping out of non-target species in coyote control. A former USA Environmental Protection Agency Administrator described 1080 as 'one of the most dangerous toxins known to man.'

4. Death by1080 poison is exceptionally painful and lingering, taking many hours and even days of spasms and convulsions before death from respiratory or cardiac failure.

5. Farm workers exposed to 1080 over a period of time can suffer extreme pain and disability merely by contact with the poison - even if they do not ingest it.
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« Reply #13 on: Sun 9 February, 2014 - 10:23 pm »

There are laws against cruelty to animals why can't they be used to shut down the use of it?
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« Reply #14 on: Sun 9 February, 2014 - 10:33 pm »

f**k knows, there must be some backhanders happening there, and it's not a National Govt issue, it was the same when Labour was in power.
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« Reply #15 on: Sun 9 February, 2014 - 11:21 pm »

Animal Control Products.
Trading as Pestoff.co.nz
60% of their business is 1080 products.
Two Shareholders, Minister of Finance and Minister of Primary Industries.
Dividends paid in 2013 $500,000 That's $250,000 each. No wonder they support the use of 1080!
Profit Results

The Net Surplus before income tax for the year ended 30 June
$609,817
Deferred taxation
($37,883)
Provision for income tax
($178,987)
Giving Net Surplus After Tax of
$392,947
Dividends Paid
($500,000)
Add Retained Earnings from previous years
$3,967,745
Giving Retained Earnings at end of year of
$3,860,691
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« Reply #16 on: Sun 9 February, 2014 - 11:59 pm »

Support nz business 
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« Reply #17 on: Mon 10 February, 2014 - 09:07 am »

Animal Control Products.
Trading as Pestoff.co.nz
60% of their business is 1080 products.
Two Shareholders, Minister of Finance and Minister of Primary Industries.
Dividends paid in 2013 $500,000 That's $250,000 each. No wonder they support the use of 1080!
Profit Results

The Net Surplus before income tax for the year ended 30 June
$609,817
Deferred taxation
($37,883)
Provision for income tax
($178,987)
Giving Net Surplus After Tax of
$392,947
Dividends Paid
($500,000)
Add Retained Earnings from previous years
$3,967,745
Giving Retained Earnings at end of year of
$3,860,691


What a bloody rort! So write a letter to John Key and ask him why the issue isn't being addressed - refer to all the evidence, ask him whether his Ministers Bill English and Nathan Guy get off on cruelty to animals and if not, why are they making money from it?

You should contact the Manager/President of the SPCA and ask why the animal welfare act doesn't cover the use of 1080, it must not because someone would have thought to use it.

Or find out who is lobbying against it and join them, red, you obviously have the passion, work it!
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« Reply #18 on: Mon 10 February, 2014 - 01:39 pm »

Hasn't that already been done, and didn't the person they put in to do a report or investigation not long ago came back with the conclusion that they should actually be allowed to increase the quantity of 1080 dropped. 
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« Reply #19 on: Tue 11 February, 2014 - 08:00 am »

In today's news ...




Kea can't resist eating 1080 baits
SARAH-JANE O'CONNOR
Feb 11, 2014

Researchers trying to find ways to prevent kea from eating 1080 bait are unlikely to be ready for a planned increase in pest control this year.

With the Department of Conservation (DOC) set to increase use of 1080 across the South Island to counter an expected rat and stoat plague, research is still in progress to find a way to prevent the world's only mountain parrot from consuming the poison.

Since 2008, 155 kea have been monitored during ten 1080 operations, of which 20 (13 per cent) died after the toxin drop.

DOC technical adviser Michelle Crowell is leading the research to test repellents that it is hoped will limit the number of kea killed by 1080 poisoning.

One repellent, a food additive that gives a peppermint taste shown to irritate birds, was tested last year around Arthur's Pass but five of the 39 monitored birds still died after eating the bait. A second repellent is being trialled in the hope that consuming a non-toxic pellet laced with the compound will leave birds feeling ill and prevent them from later eating toxic pellets laced with the repellent.

Kea Conservation Trust chairwoman Tamsin Orr-Walker said the "intelligent and opportunistic" birds were "primed" to investigate disposed foods around areas they frequently met humans, and this might contribute to some birds being attracted to 1080 pellets.

With further testing required before another trial can be run, it is unlikely a repellent will be ready for DOC's proposed 1080 project aimed at curbing an increase in predator numbers.
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« Reply #20 on: Thu 27 February, 2014 - 12:58 pm »

Hi Red, I've been talking to people at work about the 1080 situation - health workers believe or not are great animal lovers as well weird that  eh   not really but anyway, I've been mentioning about who is on the make regarding the selling of the stuff...people are really shocked! Maybe that information needs to get out there more because obviously if you have people in Government making money out of a bad situation  that which needs to be addressed by Government then there is a conflict of interest there eh. That information needs to be plastered all over New Zealand, other parties might take a fresh look at it - make use of the election year.  
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