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« on: Mon 25 January, 2016 - 10:19 am »

http://www.maoritelevision.com/news/regional/28th-maori-battalion-veteran-forced-beg-assistance

In America there are returned service men sleeping under bridges - because that c**try is civilised. (really?)

Will this story make it into the mainstream media, or might it be too damaging? Lets face it this Government is already s**tting on cancer patients and disabled children, we should be immune to it but I'm not.
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« Reply #1 on: Mon 25 January, 2016 - 10:35 am »

Tppa will fix it, and don't forget John will have another four years to get it right 
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« Reply #2 on: Mon 25 January, 2016 - 10:55 am »

get to f**king work jokey needs your tax dollars.
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« Reply #3 on: Mon 25 January, 2016 - 11:19 am »

http://www.maoritelevision.com/news/regional/28th-maori-battalion-veteran-forced-beg-assistance

In America there are returned service men sleeping under bridges - because that c**try is civilised. (really?)

Will this story make it into the mainstream media, or might it be too damaging? Lets face it this Government is already s**tting on cancer patients and disabled children, we should be immune to it but I'm not.
do the Maori up there not want an airport either??

I seem to remember them deliberately setting fires to a certain area up there, and only when the fire brigade told them to go f**k themselves, they will not fight their fires any more,  after one of the firefighters got killed fighting those fires, that the Maori pulled their heads in and the fires stopped.

While I do not agree for even a nano second that that guy should have had his pension stopped. Wtf is the protest about?
And the other thing is  why didn't he just go to the court when summonsed?  How hard would it have been to carry on the protest there. By saying Not Guilty!
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« Reply #4 on: Mon 25 January, 2016 - 11:29 am »

...The veteran was trespassed by police following a protest occupation at Kaitaia Airport last year...

then failed to appear in court.

From what I'm reading from the linked article there appears to be 3 parties involved 2 Iwi/hapu and the Government disputing ownership of the land. That does not give the Government the right to stop his pension, when did the pension even become classed as a benefit? f**kers think because they're leading a whole lot of sheep that they can get away with anything. That isn't so.
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« Reply #5 on: Mon 25 January, 2016 - 03:03 pm »

I have an idea  Why don't we support cancer patients, disabled children, and war veterans? Instead of changing the flag to jokeys preference.
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« Reply #6 on: Mon 25 January, 2016 - 03:20 pm »

...The veteran was trespassed by police following a protest occupation at Kaitaia Airport last year...

then failed to appear in court.

From what I'm reading from the linked article there appears to be 3 parties involved 2 Iwi/hapu and the Government disputing ownership of the land. That does not give the Government the right to stop his pension, when did the pension even become classed as a benefit? f**kers think because they're leading a whole lot of sheep that they can get away with anything. That isn't so.
I didn't disagree about stopping his pension. That's just plain nasty
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« Reply #7 on: Tue 26 January, 2016 - 03:29 pm »

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11579819

Northland iwi Ngati Kahu has vowed to keep paying war veteran Selwyn Clarke for as long as it takes after his war pension was stopped because he failed to respond to an arrest warrant.

Iwi chief executive Anahera Herbert-Graves said a Facebook page called "Restore Selwyn's War Pension" raised more than $200 on its first day yesterday.

Maori TV reported that Mr Clarke, 88, was reduced to begging at the Kaitaia market at the weekend after his veteran's pension and disability allowance were stopped on November 23 because he did not respond to a warrant for his arrest over a trespass charge arising from a protest occupation of Kaitaia Airport last September.

"He hated doing this," Ms Herbert-Graves said. "He has basically gone through all his savings. It's just demeaning, but at the same time he does have a political point of view and that is that he was on his own land and he doesn't recognise the legitimacy of anyone to come into the courts."


Mr Clarke said he had no intention of appearing before the district court so his warrant to arrest would be withdrawn and his veteran's pension restored.

"Attending the court is not in my kaupapa," he said.

"It's not in [the court's] kaupapa to attend the marae, but we need to get together to sort this out. We will do that eventually. When this has blown over a bit I will invite the judge to sit down and look at how we can address it."

Mr Clarke said he was making his stand for all other New Zealanders, Maori and Pakeha, who could be in jeopardy from the same government policy in the future, and were not aware of it.

"If I don't make a stand it will affect thousands of other people, Maori and Pakeha," he said.

"If I give in now it will affect them later on. This is affecting people who don't need to be affected."

The only contact he had had was from the Ministry of Veterans' Affairs, which he understood had made contact with the police. He had had no warning from the Ministry of Social Development that he stood to lose his pension if the warrant to arrest was not withdrawn.

He lost the pension, which he said was worth around $300 a fortnight, in November, but had only discovered what had happened when he couldn't pay his bills. He was still receiving a war pension of around $500 a fortnight.

His initial response had been to sell his tools, but he didn't get much for them and could not raise enough money to live on. So he began begging in Kaitaia.

"What else can I do?" he asked.

"I'm beyond working; my war injuries are playing up more than they used to."

Meanwhile, he lived a simple life on the Ahipara gumfields, where he had spent most of his life. And he was receiving significant support, including financially.

His predicament had now gained international attention, even in Britain's House of Lords, he said, that institution's response being to "wait and see what happens".

Iwi chair Professor Margaret Mutu said Mr Clarke took his case to the iwi runanga or "parliament" at the weekend and won the iwi's full backing.

"He takes the view, which quite a few of our people take, that under the Treaty we never acceded our sovereignty, and therefore he does not come under the jurisdiction of the Crown," she said.

The Ministry of Social Development said that Mr Clarke was "in full control of his situation and knows what he needs to do to resume payments".

"When he clears his warrant, we are happy to help and will resume payments," the ministry said.

The law was changed in 2013 to stop all pensions and benefits for people with outstanding arrest warrants. Previous reports have said 14 superannuitants had their pensions suspended because of outstanding warrants up to early last year.

Northland MP Winston Peters said Mr Clarke's pension should be reinstated because the law under which he was arrested for trespass in the airport protest was "highly questionable".

"You have got a law being applied to Selwyn Clarke that, at its foundation, may well be proven to be specious, and therefore an invalid application of the law where he is concerned," he said.

"If his protest was about the valid ownership [of the airport land] and therefore was proven on investigation to be meritorious, then how could the bureaucracy be applying a law in the way that it is applying it to him? It is not a clear-cut case at all.

"The first thing they should do is reinstate his veteran's pension and put some unbiased work into the validity of the claim."

Professor Mutu said Ngati Kahu appealed to the High Court last year to seek a ruling that the Waitangi Tribunal should have issued binding recommendations on the settlement of the iwi claim over Treaty grievances.

The court ordered the tribunal to hear the issue again, but both sides have since appealed to the Court of Appeal on points of law. No date for the higher court hearing has yet been fixed.

- additional reporting Peter Jackson of the Northland Age

- NZ Herald

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« Reply #8 on: Wed 27 January, 2016 - 04:56 pm »

http://kiwicando.com/tppablock/88-year-old-wwii-veteran-confronts-our-modern-enemy/


Winston Peters has said in an article that I read yesterday that the cutting off of Mr. Clarke's pension may not even be legal and therefore should be reinstated and the legality worked out around it before any action is taken.

it seems very odd to me that that wasn't taken into consideration before the move to cut his pension. Also makes me wonder how often WINZ get things wrong.
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« Reply #9 on: Thu 28 January, 2016 - 11:48 am »

http://kiwicando.com/tppablock/88-year-old-wwii-veteran-confronts-our-modern-enemy/


Winston Peters has said in an article that I read yesterday that the cutting off of Mr. Clarke's pension may not even be legal and therefore should be reinstated and the legality worked out around it before any action is taken.

it seems very odd to me that that wasn't taken into consideration before the move to cut his pension. Also makes me wonder how often WINZ get things wrong.
wins gets it wrong very often
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