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General Category => Mass Debating Chamber => Topic started by: Lux on Fri 3 June, 2016 - 03:43 pm

Title: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Lux on Fri 3 June, 2016 - 03:43 pm
too much wanking on.

Title: Re: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Mr Nice Guy on Fri 3 June, 2016 - 03:54 pm
Oh sure, believe a bunch of religious fanatics with an agenda before the leader of the nation  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Lux on Fri 3 June, 2016 - 05:45 pm

I like this one


Title: Re: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Lux on Sat 4 June, 2016 - 08:59 am
It is the song that never goes on and on my friends...

John Key won’t like this, but by Helen Clark’s standards he looks weak.

He was lied to by Judith Collins; the best spin you can put on it is that she lied by omission or misled by omission. Take your pick; it’s all semantics.

She went to China as Justice Minister for ‘anti-corruption’ business, but ended up meeting Oravida bosses three times – including that ‘secret’ dinner involving a senior Chinese border official. Wow, I bet all Kiwi exporters struggling in China would love that sort of access and help, wouldn’t they?

Oravida needs access to China. She was clearly helping her husband’s business, while being paid by the taxpayer to be Justice Minister. Yet she failed to declare this to the Prime Minister and in her report to the Cabinet. It’s a sackable offence.

Title: Re: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Mr Nice Guy on Sat 4 June, 2016 - 10:47 am
Jack The Ripper looked weak next to Helen Clark's standards  :facepalm:

JK is a more balanced reasonable man with considerable empathy for those among his flock who might stray a little and need a kind firm but fatherly figure to guide them into a more stable path of growth and nurture for the good of the common man.  :idea:

Title: Re: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Lux on Sat 4 June, 2016 - 12:51 pm
yes he has a few by the pony tail and the rest by ther short and curlies - or short and straights depending how you look at it.  :eek:

Title: Re: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Lux on Sat 4 June, 2016 - 08:05 pm
435 lies by John Key

1.I promise to always be honest
2.I will not be hiring Crosby/Textor
3.The Government I lead will be a Government of good standards.
4.we are not going to sack public servants, the attrition rate will reduce costs
5.we are not going to cut working for families
6.I firmly believe in climate change and always have
7.We seek a 50% reduction in New Zealand’s carbon-equivalent net emissions, as compared to 1990 levels, by 2050. 50 by 50. We will write the target into law.
8.National Ltd™ will provide a consistent incentive for both biofuel and biodiesel by exempting them from excise tax or road user charges
9.National Ltd™ will increase the number of front line police officers by 600 before the end of 2011
10.there is no truth in Nicky Hager’s book “The Hollowmen”
11.I didn’t know about The Bretheren election tactics
12.If they came to us now with that proposal [re trans-Tasman Therapeutic Goods regime], we will sign it
13.I can’t remember my position on the 1981 Springbok Tour
14. Tranzrail shares
15.I did not mislead the House (1)
16. Lord Ashcroft
17.National Ltd™ would not have sent troops into Iraq
18.Standard & Poors credit downgrade
19.the double-down grade doesn’t really matter and its only about private sector debt
20.I did not mislead the House (2)
21.I didn’t say I want wages to drop
22.I can’t remember why I voted against increasing the minimum wage
23.lifting the minimum wage to $15 an hour will increase unemployment
24.the real rate of inflation is 3.3 percent.
25.the tourism sector has not lost 7,000 jobs I have never heard of Whitechapel
27.I won’t raise GST
28.people who are on the average wage and have a child are $48 a week better off after the rise in GST
29.the purchase of farmland, by overseas buyers will be limited to ten farms per purchase
30.the Pike River Mine was consented to under a Labour Government promises were made to get the remains of the miners out of the Pike River mine
32.I did not provide a view on the safety of the Pike River coalmine
33.I did not mislead the House (3)
34.capping, not cutting the public service
35.raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour will cost 6000 jobs
36.north of $50 a week
37.privatisation won’t significantly help the economy
38.wave goodbye to higher taxes, not your loved ones
39.I never offered Brash a diplomatic job in London
40.Tariana Turia is “totally fine” with the Tuhoe Treaty Claim deal
42.National Ltd™ is not going to radically reorganise the structure of the public sector cuts won’t require additional borrowing
44.New Zealand does not have a debt problem
45.New Zealand troops in Afghanistan will only be involved in training, not fighting
46.the wage gap between New Zealand and Australia has closed under my National Ltd™ government
47.It took 9 years for Labour to make a complete and utter mess of the economy
48.National Ltd™ has changed the Overseas Investment Act to include 19 different criteria
49.the price of goods and services has risen by 6 percent since the last election, while the after-tax average wage has actually gone up by 16 percent, although its a week ago and here I am being interviewed on television about them, I havn’t seen Gerry Brownlee’s comments regarding demolitions in Christchurch and which caused such outrage, but I can talk all about them
51.our SAS soldiers were not involved in the Kabul Hotel gunfight
52.the use of the Vela brother’s helicopter was required so I could attend meetings relating to national/international security concerns
53.the DPS makes the decision about accompanying the Prime Minister or not, I had no choice but to take them on holiday to Hawaii
54.I did not mislead the House (4)
55.oh, maybe our SAS soldiers were in the Kabul hotel gun fight but they weren’t wounded by friendly fire
56.New Zealand has lost $12 billion from GDP due to the Christchurch earthquake . . . oh, it might actually be around $15 billion from GDP due to the Christchurch earthquake . . . Blinglish said what?
57.10,000 houses will have to be demolished in Christchurch due to the earthquake
58.14,000 new apprentices will start training over the next five years, over and above the number previously forecast
59.our amendments to the ETS ensure we will continue to do our fair share internationally
60.we are committed to honouring our Kyoto Protocol obligations
61.any changes to the ETS will be fiscally neutral
62.New Zealand has grown for eight of the last nine quarters”
63.National Ltd™ will tender out the government banking contract
64.we will be back in surplus by 2014-15
65.Nicky Hager’s book “Other People’s Wars” is a work of fiction
66.unemployment is starting to fall
67.we have created 60,000 jobs
68.we have created 45,000 jobs
69.the 2011 Budget will create in the order of 170,000 jobs
70.I don’t know if I own a vineyard, I did not mislead the House (5)
72.the Isreali spy killed in the Christchurch quake had “only one” passport
73.the Police will not need to make savings by losing jobs
74.I voted to keep the drinking age at 20
75.New Zealand is 100% Pure
76.I’ve been prime minister for four years, and it’s really 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year in New Zealand is attracting more government support
78.the decision to buy brand new BMWs was made by the Department of Internal Affairs without reference either to their minister or to me
79.I didn’t have a clue that Ministerial Services, which I am in charge of, was going to buy brand new BMWs
80.even though four of my ministers knew all about it, I didn’t have a clue that brand new BMWs were being bought.
81.even though my Chief of Staff met with officials to discuss purchase of the the brand new BMWs, I didn’t have a clue
82.even though I personally signed papers discussing the matter, I still didn’t have a clue
83.Labour forced us into buying the brand new BMWs, its their fault
84.ummm, look, sorry about that BMW thing , it was because I was so upset
85.I did not describe David Beckam as thick as bats**t
86.I did not mislead the House (6)
87.the public demanded that we change the labour laws for The Hobbit
88.“The Hobbit” created 3000 new jobs
89.we have delivered 800 extra doctors in the public service
90.I did not mislead the House (7)
91.I wasn’t working at Elders when the sham foreign exchange deals took place
92.I was starting School Certificate exams in 1978
93.I don’t know who arrived on the CIA jet to visit the spies I am responsible for
94.reducing barriers to property developers will increase the availability of affordable housing
95.Labour left the economy in poor shape
96.forecasts show unemployment will fall
97.we have closed the wage gap with Australia by $27
98.Ngati Porou and Whanau Apanui are not opposed to mining
99.I have not had any meetings with Media Works
100.our [NZ’s] terms of trade remain high
101.the TPPA is an example of democracy
102.the TPPA will still have to be ratified by Parliament
103.National Ltd™ will use the proceeds of state asset sales to invest in other public assets, like schools and hospitals
104.New Zealand troops will be out of Afghanistan by April 2013
105.overseas investment in New Zealand adds to what New Zealanders can invest on their own
106.overseas investment in New Zealand creates jobs, boosts incomes, and helps the economy grow
107.National Ltd™ will build 2000 houses over the next two years
108.there are only 4 New Zealand SAS soldiers in Bamiyan and all working in the area of logistics and planning only
109.selling state assets will give cash equity to those companies
110.the Sky City deal will provide 1000 construction jobs and 800 casino jobs
111.all five bidders for the convention centre were treated equally office has had no correspondence, no discussions, no involvement with the Sky City deal
113.I did not mislead the House (8)
114.I can’t remember what was discussed at my meeting with the SkyCity Chief Executive on 14 May 2009
115.I have no record of the 12 November 2009 email from Treasury advising that the SkyCity deal was dodgy and needed to be referred to the Auditor General
116.there was nothing improper about the Sky City deal
117.SkyCity will only get “a few more” pokie machines at the margins
118.any changes to gambling regulations will be subject to a full public submission process
119.Sky City has approached TVNZ about the purchase/use of government-owned land
120.I did not mislead the House (9)
121.this government has been very transparent about all its dealings with SkyCity
122.I did not mislead the House (10)
123.the Auditor General has fully vindicated National over the Sky City deal
124.I did not mislead the House (11)
125.the Deputy Auditor General supports the view that there was nothing inappropriate about the Sky City deal
126.I did not mislead the House (12)
127.I did not breach the confidentiality of the Auditor General’s Report into the Sky City deal
128.the Labour Government did exactly the same sort of deal back in 2001
129.Labour has promised to not revoke the Sky City legislation
130.the construction of the new SkyCity convention centre will not cost taxpayers or ratepayers a cent with SkyCity meeting the full project costs in return for some concessions from the Government
131.there’s a 50/50 chance the Hobbit is going off shore unless we do something
132.David Shearer has signed up for the purchase of shares in Mighty River
133.Solid Energy asked the government for a $1 billion capital investment
134.National will not be using $100 million from the sale of Mighty River Power shares to bail out Solid Energy
135.fracking has been going safely on in Taranaki for the past 30 years without any issues frontline positions will be lost at DOC
137.Iain Rennie came to me and recommended Fletcher for the GCSB job
138.I told Cabinet that I knew Ian Fletcher
139.I forgot that after I scrapped the shortlist for GCSB job I phoned a life-long friend to tell him to apply for the position
140.I told Iain Rennie I would contact Fletcher
141.I haven’t seen Ian Fletcher in a long time.
142.I did not mislead the House (13)
143.I have no reason to doubt at this stage that Peter Dunne did not leak the GCSB report
144.I called directory service to get Ian Fletcher’s number
145.the new legislation narrows the scope of the GCSB
146.the GCSB has been prevented from carrying out its functions because of the law governing its functions
147.because the opposition is opposed the GCSB law amendments, parliamentary urgency is required
148.the increasing number of cyber intrusions which I can’t detail or discuss prove that the GCSB laws need to be extended to protect private enterprise was always the intent of the GCSB Act to be able to spy on New Zealanders on behalf of the SIS and police
150.National Ltd™ is not explanding the activities of the GCSB with this new law
151.cyber terrorists have attempted to gain access to information about weapons of mass destruction held on New Zealand computers
152.the law which says the GCSB cannot spy on New Zealanders is not clear totally incorrect that the Government effectively through GCSB will be able to wholesale spy on New Zealanders
154.we self identified that there was a problem with the GCSB spying on Kim Dotcom
155.the illegal spying on Kim Dotcom was an isolated incident
156.The advice I have had in 4 years as a Minister is that in no way ever has there been an indication of unlawful spying
157.the Ministerial Warrant signed by Bill English did not cover anything up
158.I wasn’t briefed about the raid on Kim Dotcom’s home.
159.first I heard I heard about Kim Dotcom was on 19 January 2012
160.first I heard about the illegal spying on Kim Dotcom was in 17 September 2012
161.I did not mislead the House (14)
162.I won’t be discussing Kim Dotcom during my Hollywood visit.
163.The Human Rights Commission couldn’t get its submission on the GCSB legislation in on time. would cost too much to for the police and SIS to carry out the spying on New Zealanders that this new legislation will permit
165.critics of the GCSB legislation, including the Law Society, the Human Rights Commission, and the Privacy Commission, are all uninformed, I did not mislead the House (15)
167.I do not know how Mr Henry is conducting the Inquiry, I did not mislead the House (16)
169.the Henry Inquiry had permission to view Ministers’ emails, I did not mislead the House (??)
171.we do not spy on journalists
172.the passing of phone records to the Henry Inquiry was an error on the part of a contractor
173.I wasn’t aware that my own Chief of Staff was instructing Parliamentary Services to hand over information concerning journalist Andrea Vance
174.National Ltd™ has never tried to impinge on the role of the media
175.I had nothing to do with information on a journalist being handed over to the inquiry into the leaking of the GCSB report
176.the terms of the inquiry made it clear to everyone that it was only the phone records of parliamentary staff and ministers that were to be provided
177.I have the utmost respect for the media and the role it plays in New Zealand’s democracy
178.the Henry Inquiry did not access a journalist’s building-access records
179.the Henry Inquiry did not ask for phone and email records, I did not mislead the House (17)
181.the Greens are opposed to the GCSB and the SIS even existing
182.the GCSB needs to spy on New Zealanders because there are al-Qaeda terrorists in New Zealand
183.the GCSB is not sharing meta-data with the NSA
184.John Minto is in the Green Party
185.the GCSB needs to spy on New Zealanders because of the terrorist threat, even though official reports released over my signature say there is no risk and the SIS has the matter in hand
186.the GCSB Bill does not give the GCSB the power to look at the content of communications as part of its cyber-security functions, I did not mislead the House (18)
188.Edward Snowden hacked into the NSA data base to obtain the documents which show details of the GCSB setting up a mass surveillance system
189.I will release documents which show that an operation to provide mass surveillance data only ever made it to the business plan stage.
190.Ummm . . . now that people are paying attention, the programme got underway but I stopped in in March 2013 or, askshully, it might have been September 2013.
191.Kim Dotcom is paying Glenn Greenwald to come to New Zealand
192.There’s no ambiguity. No middle ground. I’m right and Glenn Greenwald is wrong,
193.I’ll resign if the GCSB conducts mass surveillance
194.there never has been any mass surveillance and New Zealand has not gathered mass information and provided it to international agencies.
195.The GCSB does not have the physical capability to carry out mass surveillance
196.New Zealand has not gathered mass information and provided it to international agencies.”
197.there will be no mining on Conservation land in the Corromandel, I did not say we would follow the US and Australia into a war against North Korea
199.New Zealand has an arrangement to have asylum seekers processed in Australian detention camps
200.I did not mislead the house (19)
201.I paid for that lunch and I’ve got the credit card bill to prove it
202.I am honest and upfront
203.the only way net new jobs can be created is by private investors putting their money into businesses in New Zealand can’t hide if yuu’re Prime Minister increase in the number of people looking for work indicates that confidence is returning to the economy
206.the 10 percent of taxpayers in New Zealand who are the top earners pay 76 percent of all net personal tax.
207.I did not mislead the House (20)

416.I did not know about the report into the conditions at Taji prior to my arrival there even though the report was released on 30 September
417.It was the Overseas Investment Office which refused permission for Shanghai Pengxin to buy Lochinver Station
418.My office and I both obey the word and the spirit of the OIA law
419.Labour prefers to protect the interests of rapists and child molesters rather than those of ordinary New Zealanders
420.New Zealand citizens detained on Christmas Island are there voluntarily
421.New Zealanders held on Christmas Island include murderers and rapists
422.“The question about broader detainees.”
423.Australia and New Zealand share common values, including a strong commitment to democracy, human rights, and the rule of law.
424.Labour wants to fly the Christmas Island detainees back to NZ’
425.I’ve never been asked to apologise for saying the opposition supports rapists and murderers
426.I’m making sure New Zealanders are protected’
427.With regard to emission from agriculture and our high level of renewable electricity generation, New Zealand faces unique domestic challenges in reducing its emissions,”
428.Judith Collins was completely cleared by an independent inquiry
429.A major contributor to the fact that there are so many children living in poverty is because their parents are using drugs
430.The reason there is poverty in New Zealand is due to people not working
431.The science around climate change predictions is doubtful
432.The TPP has to go through our Parliament has to be ratified by our Parliament and has to bear scrutiny
433.Not a single part of TPP cuts across the Treaty of Waitangi

434. Key tells country that there is no housing crisis

435: Key tells country Salvation Army helped his homeless flying squads – turns out that’s a lie.

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Title: Re: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Mr Nice Guy on Sun 5 June, 2016 - 04:35 am
What's your point  :thinking:

Title: Re: Liar liar pants on fire
Post by: Lux on Sun 5 June, 2016 - 09:58 am

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